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I recently bought a used t17 michicraft and it was beat to hell by obviously many people "I'm assuming". I spent a few hours pounding with pieces of wood and sledgehammers to bring it back to great shape. The reason the canoe was still in existence was the dents were huge dents rather than holes, and by the way none of the support rails underneath broke and none of the rivets came loose or popped and I had to pound the hell out of it sometimes I had to hit it repeatedly with everything I had using an 8 pound sledge hammer and a piece of wood. I'll be more than happy to take your big beat up heavy canoe and Dash it back into shape rather than sink in a cheap light gauge aluminum canoe. I read the article from the individual that said he flipped the same canoe while testing it. I found it to be very irritating and untruthful. If it is the truth I can guarantee you they would probably flip a rowboat also. Anyone that flips a canoe and then blames the canoe probably should not be canoeing or even operating a vehicle of any kind!!! It is not the canoe it is the operator. I love my T 17 michicraft canoe. I have no problem submitting my name. Matthew Alden senior Athol Massachusetts