I have own three tarpons all of them with rudders, the 13.5 ride/2009, 140/2010 and 160/2009. All of them have the front hatch and middle hatch design problem. They all get water retained around the hatch and water goes in to the hull allways. Those seals never seal well. Even after replacing them with rubber thicker seals, water still comes in. Also there is no container on the middle hatch to keep things in place. This kayaks are not water proof. This are not sea kayaks only lakes or waveless rivers.