I have owned my 169 for twelve years and love it. It is very stable and easy to paddle in both creeks and lakes. It has won several ameture canoe races. 10 yrs ago my brother, nephews and I decided to try it as a tobogan in deep snow. What an awsome ride. By the way, you have to lean the opposite of the way you want to turn. 4 yrs ago, we got anxoius and there wasn't quite enough snow. Long story short,I put a 42" rip in it. Much fiberglass and resin later it is still afloat and has won another half dozen ameture races. The only reason I gave it a 10 is because I couldn't give it a 20. I love it and will never part with it. Just too many good memories and many more I'm sure.