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I originally bought my Loon 160T used, as I was looking for a large-cockpit kayak to adapt to a rowing frame. That particular project has not yet been completed, but in the meantime we have now taken this kayak out several times in lakes and flatwater rivers. It has proven to be a versatile and able performer. The 160T tracks reasonably well, and we have had no difficulty maneuvering it, except in strong crosswinds. We love the roomy cockpit where we can stretch out, put our knees up, or dip our toes.
As others have mentioned, this is not a light boat, but with the extra weight you get the toughness of plastic. I'm willing to trade the higher weight for the peace of mind that I am paddling a craft that is virtually indestructible. It can be a bit of a struggle to load the boat onto a car top single-handed, but I do it all the time, particularly with the help of a wheeled kayak carrier.
The thing I'm most puzzled about is, why are boats like the Old Town Loon 160T hardly ever made anymore? Most plastic tandems are significantly shorter now, and few tandems over 15' have the open cockpit design.
For the last two years I have managed a fairly large retailer which sells large volume kayaks and canoes. I have used them all. I debated earlier this year about switching out the 160T for something a little lighter because I have an 11 and 8 year old who love to kayak and they can't carry or pull it on shore. My bad, never make a short sighted decision. I would have regretted it! My kids, son 11 and daughter 8, handle it very well. No tracking problems for them, no rudder.
If I ever find another I will purchase it. I have taken this kayak on everything the Allegheny, Yough, and Ohio Rivers have to offer along with Lake Erie often. No Issues.
Personal opinion one of the best all around kayaks of all time. Also it gets beat frequently and still looks good. I just don't understand the bad reviews. I teach everyone who complains about tracking or weight issues how to do it right. I can carry it myself on my shoulder and I'm a pencil. There are not tricks but experience teaches you the best, easiest way to do anything. Don't blame the product at first, learn!!
We love Flat Water paddling and our Loon has been fantastic. Manueverable, both in and out of the water, with loads of space for packing all the gear needed and still allowing for leg and body room, I wouldn't choose any other kayak of this size.
When fishing from the shoreline is a bust the accommodations on the kayak for paddle locks come in real handy to lock in your lucky fishing pole and take to the hidden nooks and lily pads that would otherwise be hard to reach areas with a motorized watercraft or big clunky row boat allowing you to reel in a nice size large mouth bass for supper!
From Fishing to camping and adventures down calm streams and lakes to hitting the rapids this kayak has seen it all and still makes the grade meeting our expectation each and every time... now if only we had a second one to take in some great paddling adventures, fishing and camping with our 2 awesome boys, to allow them to see how great kayaking can be. The the tough rugged design I know the Loon 160T is the best buy for their fishing trips today and their quest for some white water in the years that follow.
Mother Nature is calling your name, go out and buy an Old Towne Kayak today and become one with YOUR greatest outdoor adventure!
I have owned and paddled several canoes and kayaks, and this is the best all-around boat I have ever seen! We even won the Blues Cruz Marathon race (in our class - K-2) on the Mississippi River in this boat.
I can't believe all the things I have missed by not going "low and slow". We use it in the creeks around us in Oriental, NC; what a great place to paddle. We have used it a lot and we love it; wife sits in the front with the dog and I paddle her around like the princess she is. Been looking for a cockpit cover, and thanks to this site, found one at Get: Outdoors.com
All in all we love the boats and they are perfect for us larger paddlers, I'm 6-3 and 300 pounds. I will probably buy another one if I can find one, since they don't make them anymore.
As a 6'3" & 275 lbs. fisherman & photographer I needed, ahem, a LARGE volume vessel. I own hi-tech Mad River & Blue Hole canoes and have no problems carving turns in the 160T and neither should anyone with a little practiced technique. It tracks very easily, even in a chop. It's all about weight distribution and boat position, people Heavy? Hell yes! It's O.K. loading on the Yaks of my wife's Mazda Tribute solo. But on my Chevy Avalanche? Fahgetboutit! She loses it for large chunks of the year and drives OUR Jeep Wrangler. I love my wife. As the sign in the the bar with the greatest juke-box in the world, the legendary Green Parrot, sez; "No sniveling allowed!"
The kayak is quite heavy but I expected Royalex to be. I drive a 4x4 Suburban but have no trouble getting the boat on the roof after 20 years of practice with other boats. However, if I needed to carry the boat long distances I would definitely get a cart. The boat is near indestructible and should serve me well basically forever.
I can’t wait to take my younger son, who will be 2 years old in June, out for his first paddle! His (now) 3 year old brother wants to show him what it’s all about.
The weight of this boat was a big issue. My friend and i are both 5'10" and around 170lbs, and pretty strong, but still had a hard time getting the boat on top of my mom's camry. The akward weight distribution of the boat caused it to want to hang off the back end of the car, which during loading, caused me to nearly break my knee on the front bumper.
In addition, I wanted to have a boat that i could put onto the car myself and go kayaking by myself, if i wanted to. But the weight of this boat caused me to HAVE to take a someone else along, regardless if they were even going to be in the boat or not.
Another issue is the material this boat is made out of. Polylink 3 (c) is a very durable, but extremely heavy material. I scratched the bottom of the boat and though it is repairable, it takes away from the nice finish of the boat. The material is not flexible in the sense that it can't be stored in certain positions. I have to constantly keep the boat on its side in our hot garage, which even though recommended, has caused the material to droop, which has affected its tracking slightly.
When the boat arrived at my house it had tons of scrapes and scratches all over the place, mainly on the deck. And the boat's cockpit rim was deformed in several places. The black cockpit rim lining was falling off and the plastic end caps of the steel tubes that kept the sharp ends of the tubes covered, fell off. And when i tried to fix the tube holder on the left side behind the aft seat, which was slightly bent causing the end cap to fall off, i sliced my right thumb open!
Originally, i stored the boat upside down on two saw horses, with the ends supporting the weight. This was just for one night and the decks already became distorted.
All in all, i liked this boat, but it was too heavy, drooped under heat, and could not be used effectivley in rougher waters. So, i am purchasing a Lincoln Two Lites tandem, which is much lighter, tracks a heck of a lot better, faster, much more durable since it is made of kevlar, can be used in a variety of waters, including ocean, and is more flexible regarding storage positions.
Though I did scrutinize the Loon 160T somewhat, it served its purpose for what it was intended to do. For that I give it an 8.
I followed the recommendation of many paddlers and bought a set of decent paddles. Aquabond seacludes (not seaquels) at about $120 each. The narrower blade takes a lot less effort. I have paddled many hours solo, and really enjoy it. I noticed that I like the shorter shaft solo, longer shaft tandem. Go figure.
One drawback is the weight. After two trips, I made a makeshift cart to get it from the van to the water, often a considerable distance. I've also noticed the tracking quirks that some others have posted. This is most noticeable in wind or chop, especially when paddling slowly. I'm tempted to get a rudder. That is why I did not rate it 10.
So, I really love this boat. However, If you can afford two kayaks and are able to transport them, then I would suggest the Loon 138T.
Mainly we just use it to put around in the local lakes, bays, and streams. It's extremely comfortable and handles quite well, either together or solo. We've been on rather fast flowing streams and in windy open lakes and have had no problems with tracking that others have mentioned here. (Our combined weight is about 260 and we carry very little gear, so it's not like we're low in the water.)
We are, however, in the process of replacing the Loon with 2 single kayaks. The reason for the switch is weight. We're both fairly small and taking the 160 out by myself can be a little bit of a bear, but my wife simply can't handle loading and unloading the boat from the car. Overall it's been great fun, I'd have to say it was well worth the money and a very nice kayak to use.
Our Loon does not have the rudder.
UPDATE As a follow up to my post of last week, I purchased a rudder kit for my Loon 160T from Old Town. The instructions were a little vague, but I got the job accomplished. The results were everything I expected. My son and I were able to paddle without any frustation, and the experience was highly enjoyable. I then took my 77 year old father out in it, and we had a great time. The only gripe I have with the boat is that I am sporting a sore back from the weight of lifting it onto my truck, but I knew before I bought it that it was not a lightweight. I am really happy with the kayak now.
I take out my 8 & 12 year olds and 40 lb. English Bull Terrier, all at the same time! My wife and I have gone out into the middle of Donner and had an on-board picnic lunch. We don't like this kayak, we LOVE it, in fact, we're buying another one so our whole family can go out together (3 kids, 2 adults, 1 dog, and still room to spare. I don't believe this would be a good kayak for faster rivers or ocean bays though.