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I purchased the Coleman Odyssey 17(actually 17'3") in 2002 at a clearance from a Camp Coleman outlet for $399. Its Ram XX hull has stood up to all the abuse my son and his friends could dish out. The hull is subject to "oil-canning", which adversely affects its speed. However, it has high initial and final stability,and its relatively low price, make it ideal as a young family's entry level canoe, or for fishing.