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Really struggling with...
Really struggling with this one... I've had kayak experience and it went on sale at Menards for $150. What the hell...why not? It is the 10.4 Viper model.
First of all, actual measurements from tip to tip are 10 feet, 1 inch. Not sure where 10'4" comes from. Maybe if you stretch the rope handles??? LOL
It is rated for 300 lbs, a nice plus. I'm 5'10" and 270 lbs (yeah, I'm fat). But it handled me well and I didn't feel like I was sitting too low in the water. Nice!
The plastic is cheap, but it's easier to load on and off the truck. Negative and a Plus.
No thigh pads. A $1 pool noodle and some clear gorilla tape fixed that.
No stern bulkhead. Huge minus... expect to buy Kayak Float Bags if you're halfway serious in case you capsize in deep water. The stern storage is it's own molded plastic compartment though, so the stern water intake is from the sides of the seat that flows backwards, and the "bubble" of the storage area should not fill up with water if the lid holds tight. I never tested how watertight the lid is.
The seat just SUCKS. And the little bit of foam there is starts to deteriorate quickly. A $6 stadium cushion from Dick's Sporting Goods helped.
I bought a 3rd party paddle, so no comments to offer on the default paddle.
Stability.... very good. No feeling of tipping over like cheap, short, "sit on top" kayaks. Honestly it was equivalent with stability to a high end 12 foot kayak I've been using.
The Bad.... is the tracking. It does NOT track straight in any sense of the word. Trying to coast or paddle in a straight line is equivalent to a rubber ducky in the bathtub. For many though... who cares? If you are with a group and trying to keep up, it could be a factor. Expect to zig zag your way through the way. All. The. Time.
For $150 to $200, it is a great kayak at a low price with better quality than other "entry level" kayaks at even higher prices. It's 10 feet, 1 inch as opposed to smaller kayaks with lower weight ratings, it is "sit inside" and stable, and if you start drilling holes and having some fun with mods, it is the PERFECT guinea pig. The plastic is cheap, but if you are on a lake and not hitting rocks, you will be fine. Don't leave it stored in the sun.
Bottom Line: Great for a few hours on a lake. Not for expeditions or the ocean or rivers. And enjoy!
You can't beat these for a...
You can't beat these for a beginner or occasional use kayak. I paid $150 for mine (paddle included) at Menard's Black Friday sales. Initially bought two and now I own four.
They are very stable and turn easily. Lots of space but, no waterproof storage area or added floatation. Personally, I prefer the space so, I can pack gear for overnight camping or take a small cooler on day trips. They aren't the fastest yaks so, you may fall behind in a group. Seats are the standard thin cushioning. I bought cheap, foam seat pads for added comfort.
The only issue I've had is one of the pad eyes for the storage hatch bungee broke.
I am brand new to the...
I am brand new to the Kayak world and was looking for something to get me started. I found the Viper on sale at Menards and picked one up. Since then I have taken many trips and added a couple features, hooks and paddle holders to keep the stuff I need close. I love this Kayak as a starter. I do plan to get a longer Kayak for the big trips and someday look to getting a short one for some rougher white water type trails. I definitely recommend this to a beginner or someone who is unsure if they will like it or not. We have a ton of fun and have taken them through Cascades in Ann Arbor, Across Detroit River to Belle Isle, On smaller lakes and plan to do Clinton River soon. Overall good Kayak, very stable. Only down side is no one makes a skirt for it so catching any waves means you will take on water.
This is a very good kayak...
This is a very good kayak for someone just starting out. We took then out on Shelbyville lake where there is constant skiing and they handled great! It has good amount of storage,
Hello folks, I recently...
Hello folks, I recently planned a 3day trip with my 10.4 viper.
What is significant, is that the kayak held 8 liters of fluid, tent, tarps, Everything! plus a cord of wood 30# between my legs. Yes, I was nervous, carrying a 100# on kayak. Zero problems.
Eau Claire river into WI river during a 2 day rain storm. Quit after 2 days. Very good value for the money.
Stable as a table and...
Stable as a table and about as fast;) I bought 4 for my kids and I gotta say I love them for a learner kayak. more sturdy than a sundolphin and better built than a pelican my kids have used them almost every day and ive cotton a couple friends out that said they would never paddle...I wont be trading in my old town for one but for the price you really cant go wrong
I've never owned or even...
I've never owned or even operated a kayak before, so I didn't know what features I needed or wanted. I knew I didn't want to spend a lot for a kayak then never use it because it was uncomfortable, unstable, or unwielding. After looking online and in-person for low-price kayaks at Dick's and Wal-Mart, I saw the Viper at Menard's, of all places. It was only $180 (down from $200) and seemed to have and be all that I needed. I was able to squeeze it into the Kia Soul (roof rack is next) and get it home without any problems. I've paddle it once around the 5-acre lake next to my house and had a blast. I never felt like I was going to tip, and I was able to get it going at a pretty good clip without too much effort (though I felt the effort later). The next step is to build a roof rack so I can get it into the nearby Des Plaines River and do some streaming.
I live in Minnesota. We...
I live in Minnesota. We bought our Viper 10.4 kayaks at Menard's. We originally bought them because of the price. But we found out early on the great kayak they are. The flat bottom is great for stability, the front tray and drink holders are awesome, the drain plug is great for rinsing them our, the seats are good, they have two bungees for holding gear and we got the paddles with the kayak!! They work fantastic for the many rivers we love to run around here.
For the price ($175 on...
For the price ($175 on sale at Menards including a surprisingly light paddle), it's hard to beat this for a kid’s boat. Our teens prefer them to our more expensive "real" kayaks. They are surprisingly fast and have lots of primary stability. Two of the seats began ripping during the first season, but the company was quick to send me replacements for free. There are no bulkheads or built in flotation, so we usually put a dry bag or two in the stern in case of swamping. Compared to Sun Dolphins and other big box store boats, these are the best I’ve seen for the money.
so far so good
Sold my canoe and purchased the lime green viper 10.4 from Menards. Have taken it out three times on local rivers, fast and slow, it tracks ok and is easy to maneuver. So much easier to paddle than my old 18 ft aluminum canoe. Needed something for one person and that is easy to carry by myself. I am a larger person at 6 foot 270 lbs, and I am rather comfortable inside. I only wish the backrest was taller, It is pretty stable, even with my weight. In 2017, the paddle is no longer included, but I did get both with the 11% rebate. So far only one of plastic seat fasteners broke, but easy to replace. I also replaced the front and rear pad-eyes with stainless steel pad-eyes and stainless steel T nuts under for additional strength.
Decent for the price
Decided to pick up a couple of the viper kayak from menards took them out today and they are nice for the price. I'm 6'1" and 234lbs and I fit nice in it my wife is only 5'4" and she likes hers. All in all good starter kayak
Very nice beginner kayak...
Very nice beginner kayak for the price. Easy to learn in. Works well for recreational trips on a lake or down a river. The carry handles have been known to break off, otherwise it's a pretty solid boat.
I have 3 Viper Kayaks. I...
I have 3 Viper Kayaks. I use them all the time. EZ to use did not brake the bank. Not the best ever kayak. But best for the money.
Bought two of the Vipers on sale.
Very stable kayaks.
Bought two of the Vipers on sale.
Very stable kayaks.
Set up one for fishing, with anchor trolley and rod holder.
Large cockpit has plenty of room for small tackle box.
Caught a 6 pound, 24 inch, large mouth bass this past weekend.
I have 2 Viper kayaks I...
I have 2 Viper kayaks I purchased at Menards. I have had them for 3 years. I really like them. I think they are great for your first kayak. Not real expensive. Do not flip easy. Great for a novice. Easy to turn and not very heavy. 1 person can handle them.
Our 2 Vipers are used...
Our 2 Vipers are used constantly. We put fearful & overweight clients in them. Most are ready to move on after a couple of hours.
Great Kayak for the price....
Great Kayak for the price. We were lucky to purchase this kayak at Menards on the 11 percent rebate. Great for small lakes and canals.With not using often the quality and price assists with affordability. Enough leg room for a 5 foot 8 inch person.
I have a viper10.4.i am a...
I have a viper10.4.i am a new kayaker. Like that it is not too heavy for a 60 year old to load.It handles easy on the small lake that I enjoy going on.Recommend highly for someone that wants to try a new activity without spending a lot of money.It is also nice that it came with a paddle so I could use right away.
Great kayak for the money and a very stable ride.
I added a…
Great kayak for the money and a very stable ride.
I added a Minn Kota Endura c30 trolling motor to mine and have a 105ah battery that fits in back. I had to do a little trimming to the opening to get the battery to fit, but it worked out great. I can easily go all day on a charge with a top speed of about 4 mph.
I LOVE my boat. Yes, it...
I LOVE my boat. Yes, it is a bit of a boat but I have never flipped it so I love its stability. I just bought my 2nd one at Menards. I did end up putting a hole in my first one after 3 yrs because I wasn't very careful about dragging it on the road (i'm of a certain age so it can get kind of heavy). I also bought one for my god-daughter so I am a BIG fan.
I purchased this kayak...
I purchased this kayak from our local Menards. It is made of hard plastic. So far I have no complaints. This kayak is great on our local reservoirs as well as on the beaches of Michigan. Even my 3 and 5 year old sons love riding in the kayak as either my wife or I paddle them. I feel for the price of these kayaks, it is a very good beginners package to see if you are interested in this hobby. It is so relaxing that I almost fell asleep in it. I am sure that your normal entry level kayak experience would be awesome with this.
We picked up two Viper...
We picked up two Viper 10.4 kayaks from Menards during their Black Friday sale last year. They were only $150 each including the paddle. At this price, I consider these an excellent deal for entry level slow water paddling. Our teenaged kids really love them, preferring them over my better kayak for some reason. They are blunt and pretty slow, but they are stable and easy to turn. Due to the shape of the deck on cockpit, there is nothing to keep waves from coming in over the top. In the class 1 rivers near us, they are a great boat for beginners and kids. Our son prefers to stand up in his. The seats are poorly made and ripping after just a few uses. I contacted the manufacturer who promptly sent us replacement seats.
I considered rating this a...
I considered rating this a 1, but the price makes it appealing to introduce
people, especially kids, to kayaking.
The price is good if you are looking for something that will get you on the
water. For the kit, $175. I've seen a lot of these being purchased around
the shore of a small lake I paddle frequently. However, I seldom see them
It has a flat bottom, so primary stability is incredible and the cockpit is
huge so even the largest paddler can climb in and out. Best use would be
for fishing small lakes or letting kids paddle near shore.
The material is a very thin, cheap poly that will break down or warp in the
sun fairly quickly.
Instead of slicing through the water, it plows its way through, giving the
feeling that the boat is braking between paddle strokes - which can be
frustrating after a while.
There is very little gliding or tracking and the stern waggles significantly
with each paddle stroke.
Ok for a starter for kids, but I would recommend looking for something that
has a little more streamlining.
After another paddle in...
After another paddle in the Viper 10.4, I felt I should give an update to my 8-5-15 review with several key things to point out. First one is that I noticed that there is no flotation means inside the kayak, neither bow or stern. Second is that the stern storage, although it has a well-sealing lid, is not a sealed compartment, so the water on the floor of the kayak can run back into the stern chamber. (As long as you use a dry bag though, it does offer a lot of rear storage). Lastly, since this yak does not have a sharply-defined front or rear "keel" (like, for example, the Old Town Vapor 10), it has a little bit of a "wag" to it as you paddle, but the advantage is that you can turn very sharply – so this maneuverability makes it excellent for small, narrow streams that wind around a lot.
We have had 2 Viper kayaks...
We have had 2 Viper kayaks for 2 years now. We were new to kayaking but go often now my husband has built a rack to fit our trailer. We have done numerous small lakes and been on Lake Erie. I can't swim and i hesitated at first but the stability of the device had won me over. We fish from them and paddle at night by placing lights in hold. We plan on purchasing 2 more when funds permit! Highly recommend.
For the person on a...
For the person on a budget, you can't beat the viper. For under $200 you get the kayak and paddles. It weighs about 50# so not to heavy. It tracks fairly well and is almost un-tippable. I use it on lakes and 1and small 2 rivers, and it does great.
Bought a lime green for my...
Bought a lime green for my son's 12 year birthday, and had to buy a yellow one for me. We have enjoyed multiple trips together. Very stable, tracks ok. I set up the yellow one with a rod holder, anchor and anchor trolley, and a few cleats. Had a great time bass fishing last weekend. Had a 5 pound large mouth pulling me in circles around the anchor.
I purchased two Viper 10.4...
I purchased two Viper 10.4 kayaks during a black Friday sale. The kayak tracks well and has a 300 lb. capacity which makes it ideal for multi-day paddling depending on your weight. I have only used the kayak on lakes but would like to try on moving water. For the price, the kayaks were a great buy since we are beginner paddlers. It is a great way to test your skills as a paddler. Both readily fit on the roof of a Jeep Patriot once we installed crossbars and racks. I recommend these kayaks to beginner paddlers and people who just want to get on the water.
Durable, light weight--great for the price! Easy to throw on top of a car, especially with a helping hand. Seat isn't the most comfortable, but it get's the job done. Would definitely buy again and highly recommend.
The Viper 10.4 provides a...
The Viper 10.4 provides a multi-channel hull that makes it a great choice for avid paddlers. It also includes standard features such as bungees, an oversize cockpit, superb tracking and a stable ride. Fully equipped for an introductory level sit-in touring kayak, the Viper 10.4 is easy to paddle, easy to transport and loads of fun.
•High-performance, multi-channel hull
•Adjustable step-lock foot brace system
•Molded water bottle holder
•Front and rear bungees
•Adjustable, padded backrest
•10" x 18" rear storage hatch
•Made from high-density polyethylene
•300 lb weight capacity
•Weighs 45 lbs.
Dimensions: Overall: 10'4"L x 31-3/4"W x 13"H / Cockpit: 38-3/8"L x 20-1/2"W
Bang for buck it is a great kayak can be bought at Menards for about 200$.
This small kayak performed...
This small kayak performed well in a slow river in mid- state Michigan. The shallow draft hardly ever got hung up on shallow spots, and I'm a big guy. The kayak seat and foot pegs were comfortable. We had two long portages, and the handles made it easy enough to lift the kayaks over some trees. This is a great kayak for beginner and intermediate kayakers.
When looking for an...
When looking for an introductory yak a couple years ago, I went with the inexpensive Viper 10.4 thinking it would good enough for calm lake paddling. I now have 4 of them. They are easy to use, very stable. I'm comfortable putting my grandchildren in them to yak as a group. The one thing I would advise is to get a decent paddle. The snap together ones that come with the kayaks are not the best and only have one adjustment.
This seems to be a decent...
This seems to be a decent basic kayak for moderate recreational use. The rating of 7 is based on the overall world of kayaking. If we factor in the economical price tag, I would bump it up to 8 as far as how much you get for you money, especially if you can get it on one of its typical sales. It has a nice sampling of basic features such as deck bungees, cup holders, stern storage, some seat padding, etc. It seems to handle well, track OK, and cruise OK for its length and beam: 3.2 to 3.7 mph with a steady to firm paddling, and 4.2 to 4.7 at a sprint.
I LOVE this kayak! I have...
I LOVE this kayak! I have taken about 10 - 15 friends out in it that had never tried kayaking before and many were afraid to kayaking. They saw pictures of people flipping over and thought that would happen to them. It is so stable that none of them had trouble feeling like they would tip. I have had about 8 go buy there own after trying it. I love the sales that Menards has on them too! A GREAT buy and well worth the price. I fish for bass from my kayak, and have pulled in 20 in. 4 pound fish and it is great to feel the fight of the fish from my kayak.
For the price and what you...
For the price and what you get, this is a great kayak. Sure its not going to be very fast, or track all that great, but for the people looking at an entry level kayak, this one is hard to beat. Cockpit size is great, no dry storage, but dry bags work just fine. Seat isn't overly comfortable,but good enough for a few hours playing on the water. Great way to get on the water for a small investment.
Great boat for the money. ...
Great boat for the money. I picked up my Viper 10.4 for $199 at Menards in the early spring of 2015. I paddled the Boundary Waters as a teenager and have always loved being out on the water. I've always wanted a self propelled boat, but just hadn't had the chance until recently. Finally, now that I'm in my 30s, I picked this up as an entry level craft to go paddle the Fox River and get a feel for the type of craft I really need, canoe vs kayak. I think it's important to add the caveat that I am 6'4 - 240 lbs. If you're a big man or woman, this review is for you.
Positives of this kayak include: lightweight, durable (so far), plenty of room in the cockpit, cup holder, foot braces (not quite deep enough for me, but a nice addition to a normal sized paddler), nice tie down system, can beat it up a bit without feeling bad.
Negatives: paddles like a tank, doesn't track well. This could be due to my size, or the construction. The bottom of the boat has a dual keel, and very dull entry lines.
From a value perspective, this boat is a 10/10. Any novice paddler would do well to purchase the Viper 10.4. It'll get you on the water safely and inexpensively. And give you great perspective on what you are looking for when you want to step it up to the real deal.
I'm a big guy (320#). I...
I'm a big guy (320#). I bought this as a birthday present to myself to start paddling in a major float stream I live near. I did one four-mile float in it so far on a very wide, slow-moving part of the river. I have to say that at this point, I enjoyed it very much.
Even though I'm well over it's stated 300# carrying capacity, the higher sides and wide base made this boat very usable for me. It's light weight and shorter length means that I can toss it in the back of my Dodge Dakota without the need for a roof rack and carry it in and out of put-ins/take-outs easily by myself.
For a beginner boat, I think you would be hard-pressed to find a better value for your money.
Bought two of these from...
Bought two of these from Menards for me and my wife. Maiden voyage today on our small 55 acre lake. Kayaks performed very well in both calm and windy conditions. These are our first kayaks and we were looking for entry level, inexpensive kayaks. We are very happy with them and for the price ($169 after $30 merchandise rebate) you can't beat them. Our kids and grand kids will get a lot of use out of them this summer.
Decent kayak for the...
Decent kayak for the price. The seat lasted about 6 trips before it needed to be replaced. Of course I didn't have my receipt so Viper did nothing to work with me as far as warranty.
Good kayak for beginners....
Good kayak for beginners. It is an inexpensive entry level yak. Its slow but stable. It can't keep up with other kayaks. It stains easily and gouges. I also have found I get sore after several hours in it.
I've used the Viper 10.4...
I've used the Viper 10.4 four times this year and am really happy with it. I've sat in it for 4 hours without having any back pain. The HD polyethelene has held up nicely in a couple of shaky places that we've taken them. I would recommend them to other people interested in purchasing a kayak.
I did read reviews from...
I did read reviews from others before we purchased our Viper kayaks @ Menards. They are awesome. We really could not go wrong for $199. Some may think that the back hatch not being a dry one is a negative. Not so because there is a drain plug in the back. It is so nice for cleaning and to empty it. That's what dry bags are for. We designed our own paddle ties and put an eye bolt on them for security. I love that there is 2 water bottle holders. Can't say enough....LOVE them!
Great deal. Highly...
Great deal. Highly recommend gettin one if you've ever thought about it. bought mine mainly for fishin and its great. i had this canoe and always ended up fishin by myself and doin more paddlin than fishin not with this it gets me where the fish are
new at this 1st kayak but...
new at this 1st kayak but seems to be a good one. picked it up at Menards 199$ which I think is a deal. it is a sit in but does to seem to scrape easy
Wow what a great kayak to...
Wow what a great kayak to kick off your novice paddling! Very easy to navigate, virtually impossible to tip over, and stable enough to fish out of.
We purchased two of these lighter weight recreational kayaks to use on a slower river, no rapids higher than a low 3, and boy were they fun! Took them this weekend to a small lake, again... Loads of fun! Even did some angling.
These kayaks got us back out on the water and having fun again! Solid and inexpensive, sold along with paddles at Menards.